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	<title>Comments on: MySQL on Amazon  EC2 (my thoughts)</title>
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		<title>By: Thorsten - CTO RightScale</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7746</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorsten - CTO RightScale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the new announcement about storage volumes that Amazon made? The AWS blog has the official stuff and I wrote some more about how it changes the game at http://blog.rightscale.com/2008/04/13/
The Amazon folks are on a roll!

With the addition of the storage volumes there&#039;s no doubt in my mind anymore: the cloud adopters will have much more computing horsepower and flexibility at their fingertips than those who are still racking their own machines. Cloud computing is going to be as significant for deployment as agile is for software development. You either compute in the cloud or you&#039;ll be left behind by your competitors because they can deploy faster, better, and cheaper than you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the new announcement about storage volumes that Amazon made? The AWS blog has the official stuff and I wrote some more about how it changes the game at <a href="http://blog.rightscale.com/2008/04/13/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.rightscale.com/2008/04/13/</a><br />
The Amazon folks are on a roll!</p>
<p>With the addition of the storage volumes there&#8217;s no doubt in my mind anymore: the cloud adopters will have much more computing horsepower and flexibility at their fingertips than those who are still racking their own machines. Cloud computing is going to be as significant for deployment as agile is for software development. You either compute in the cloud or you&#8217;ll be left behind by your competitors because they can deploy faster, better, and cheaper than you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Experiments with Running WordpressMU on EC2 &#171; Hefta-Gaub Development Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7727</link>
		<dc:creator>Experiments with Running WordpressMU on EC2 &#171; Hefta-Gaub Development Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CodeWord&#8217;s Article on Running MySQL for large datasets on EC2 - This article is more than a year old, so it describes limitations in Ec2 that have been fixed, but the concepts of running MySQL in a double paired master/slave mode is a clever solution and totally appropriate for the project I&#8217;m working on. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CodeWord&#8217;s Article on Running MySQL for large datasets on EC2 &#8211; This article is more than a year old, so it describes limitations in Ec2 that have been fixed, but the concepts of running MySQL in a double paired master/slave mode is a clever solution and totally appropriate for the project I&#8217;m working on. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tedtanski</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7726</link>
		<dc:creator>tedtanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this screen cast on YouTube explaining how to get a webserver, and SSH access going on EC2 in about 6 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBajLxeKqoY

I am a complete newbie and this was a great help in getting me started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this screen cast on YouTube explaining how to get a webserver, and SSH access going on EC2 in about 6 minutes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBajLxeKqoY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBajLxeKqoY</a></p>
<p>I am a complete newbie and this was a great help in getting me started.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Degiere</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7720</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Degiere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!

Could you point us to where the below excerpt is covered in the forums? I haven&#039;t been able to find it:

&gt; be too critical of the product until it hits prime time, okay guys?, and &gt; B) the AWS team is working on an immutable storage system to connect to &gt; EC2 (so sayeth the forums mods.)

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>Could you point us to where the below excerpt is covered in the forums? I haven&#8217;t been able to find it:</p>
<p>&gt; be too critical of the product until it hits prime time, okay guys?, and &gt; B) the AWS team is working on an immutable storage system to connect to &gt; EC2 (so sayeth the forums mods.)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Claude Suddreth</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7682</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude Suddreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I have solved the problem of immutable or persistent storage for EC2 - and the answer is found right on Amazon.  It is called S3.  

Now before you say it - yes I realize that the tools AMAZON provides to access S3 are arcane, and do not allow you to use the S3 storage in a meaningful way in a live server.

However.....

What if I told you that there is a way to configure your access to your S3 account, such that you can actually MOUNT your S3 directory directly into your server environment, and use it natively as you would a local hard drive?   At that point S3 becomes the worlds largest, most redundant, and most fail safe SAN ever to exist!

The answer to this question - is Jungledisk.  You can download an evaluation copy free at www.jungledisk.com.  If you use it there is a $20 lifetime registration fee good for an unlimited amount of servers.  Basically beer and pizza money for a product that makes EC2 1000 times more viable.  I have even posted into the forums there under linux how you would set this up under an Ubuntu 7.10 instance - but I have done it on a Redhat system also - and it should work on pretty much any flavor of Linux.

Using this method I have achieved direct access speeds to S3 of 63MB/s - or 500mbps throughput - half a gig!  Certainly not light speed - but indeed - quite usable for almost all applications.

And the beauty of it is that I put the link in /mnt/s3.  Thats it.  You can do anything with this link you can do with any other directory.  Just map the files and applications you need to keep persistent in the event of an EC2 instance shutdown, and you are golden.   It is extremely stable, and simply works.

No - I am not a person associated with this company in any way.  I am simply a user like yourself who found a simple, durable, and effective solution to one of the major problems encountered in EC2.

I hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have solved the problem of immutable or persistent storage for EC2 &#8211; and the answer is found right on Amazon.  It is called S3.  </p>
<p>Now before you say it &#8211; yes I realize that the tools AMAZON provides to access S3 are arcane, and do not allow you to use the S3 storage in a meaningful way in a live server.</p>
<p>However&#8230;..</p>
<p>What if I told you that there is a way to configure your access to your S3 account, such that you can actually MOUNT your S3 directory directly into your server environment, and use it natively as you would a local hard drive?   At that point S3 becomes the worlds largest, most redundant, and most fail safe SAN ever to exist!</p>
<p>The answer to this question &#8211; is Jungledisk.  You can download an evaluation copy free at <a href="http://www.jungledisk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jungledisk.com</a>.  If you use it there is a $20 lifetime registration fee good for an unlimited amount of servers.  Basically beer and pizza money for a product that makes EC2 1000 times more viable.  I have even posted into the forums there under linux how you would set this up under an Ubuntu 7.10 instance &#8211; but I have done it on a Redhat system also &#8211; and it should work on pretty much any flavor of Linux.</p>
<p>Using this method I have achieved direct access speeds to S3 of 63MB/s &#8211; or 500mbps throughput &#8211; half a gig!  Certainly not light speed &#8211; but indeed &#8211; quite usable for almost all applications.</p>
<p>And the beauty of it is that I put the link in /mnt/s3.  Thats it.  You can do anything with this link you can do with any other directory.  Just map the files and applications you need to keep persistent in the event of an EC2 instance shutdown, and you are golden.   It is extremely stable, and simply works.</p>
<p>No &#8211; I am not a person associated with this company in any way.  I am simply a user like yourself who found a simple, durable, and effective solution to one of the major problems encountered in EC2.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Yates</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7664</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting piece. I am currently pondering as to the viabilty of EC2 for my database, and this has cetainly given me some pointers. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting piece. I am currently pondering as to the viabilty of EC2 for my database, and this has cetainly given me some pointers. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Demystifying Clouds &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-3/#comment-7655</link>
		<dc:creator>Demystifying Clouds &#124; John M Willis ESM Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are also few rumors of services trying to run MySQL on EC2 however most experts agree this is a challenge on the EC2/S3 architecture. It will be interesting to see Sun&#8217;s cloud formations flow in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are also few rumors of services trying to run MySQL on EC2 however most experts agree this is a challenge on the EC2/S3 architecture. It will be interesting to see Sun&#8217;s cloud formations flow in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Novikoff</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-7623</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Novikoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the fascinating article!  However, EC2 isn&#039;t the only game out there for utility computing.  My company provides utility computing using a virtual private datacenter operating system called AppLogic from 3Tera.  AppLogic, like EC2, also enables scalable pay-as-you-go computing, but in an environment oriented more towards reliability.  With AppLogic, you get 3-nines &quot;right out of the box&quot;, and 4 or 5-nines can be achieved using some of the techniques mentioned here.  AppLogic&#039;s 3 nines comes from automatic restarting on a different, working server of any virtual servers hosted on failed hardware.   Where it goes beyond ECS is that virtual server images, called &quot;Appliances&quot; in AppLogic are object-oriented in the sense that the configuration information for the server (application, setup files, patches, etc) is maintained separately from the server instance itself, so if the server fails, it&#039;s restarted from its parent &quot;class.&quot;  Clustering or parallel instances are supported because each Appliance has unique configuration information (including config file settings) that are settable from the AppLogic user interface, and are loaded into the Appliance when it restarts. 

User data is stored in a RAIDed volume or on a NAS appliance with RAIDed volumes within the grid of redundant servers, which means that it is available without interruption even if a server goes down.  AppLogic is oriented around &quot;Applications&quot; which are networks of Appliances in a private address space.  Even if an Appliance is restarted after a failure, it gets the same dns name inside the Application that it had before (as maintained by AppLogic) so other Appliances in the Application can continue to refer to it successfully.  The switchover usually takes just a few minutes after hardware failures.

There are currently 3 ways to use AppLogic.  You can purchase utility computing from my company, ENKI, on a pay-as-you-go basis which allows you to set up a virtual private data center (AppLogic Application) and scale it on demand.  In this case, you don&#039;t need to know anything about AppLogic to use it since we manage it for you.  You can also lease a stack of servers from a managed service provider offering AppLogic and manage it yourself or hire us to manage it for you, or if you&#039;re working for a big enough company, 3Tera will lease AppLogic licenses to you for use in your data center.

-Eric Novikoff (www.ComputingUtility.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the fascinating article!  However, EC2 isn&#8217;t the only game out there for utility computing.  My company provides utility computing using a virtual private datacenter operating system called AppLogic from 3Tera.  AppLogic, like EC2, also enables scalable pay-as-you-go computing, but in an environment oriented more towards reliability.  With AppLogic, you get 3-nines &#8220;right out of the box&#8221;, and 4 or 5-nines can be achieved using some of the techniques mentioned here.  AppLogic&#8217;s 3 nines comes from automatic restarting on a different, working server of any virtual servers hosted on failed hardware.   Where it goes beyond ECS is that virtual server images, called &#8220;Appliances&#8221; in AppLogic are object-oriented in the sense that the configuration information for the server (application, setup files, patches, etc) is maintained separately from the server instance itself, so if the server fails, it&#8217;s restarted from its parent &#8220;class.&#8221;  Clustering or parallel instances are supported because each Appliance has unique configuration information (including config file settings) that are settable from the AppLogic user interface, and are loaded into the Appliance when it restarts. </p>
<p>User data is stored in a RAIDed volume or on a NAS appliance with RAIDed volumes within the grid of redundant servers, which means that it is available without interruption even if a server goes down.  AppLogic is oriented around &#8220;Applications&#8221; which are networks of Appliances in a private address space.  Even if an Appliance is restarted after a failure, it gets the same dns name inside the Application that it had before (as maintained by AppLogic) so other Appliances in the Application can continue to refer to it successfully.  The switchover usually takes just a few minutes after hardware failures.</p>
<p>There are currently 3 ways to use AppLogic.  You can purchase utility computing from my company, ENKI, on a pay-as-you-go basis which allows you to set up a virtual private data center (AppLogic Application) and scale it on demand.  In this case, you don&#8217;t need to know anything about AppLogic to use it since we manage it for you.  You can also lease a stack of servers from a managed service provider offering AppLogic and manage it yourself or hire us to manage it for you, or if you&#8217;re working for a big enough company, 3Tera will lease AppLogic licenses to you for use in your data center.</p>
<p>-Eric Novikoff (www.ComputingUtility.com)</p>
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		<title>By: SimpleDB. Simple? well&#8230;. DB? umm&#8230; &#171; Sowing Light</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimpleDB. Simple? well&#8230;. DB? umm&#8230; &#171; Sowing Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A few months back, I examined S3 and EC2 (two of Amazon&#8217;s earlier web service offerings) and came away with the sense that Amazon is changing the rules of the game in a big way, but that there is still no good way to implement an online scalable database with these services. (I know that there are attempts to put a relational database on EC2, but they seem to be quite painful.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A few months back, I examined S3 and EC2 (two of Amazon&#8217;s earlier web service offerings) and came away with the sense that Amazon is changing the rules of the game in a big way, but that there is still no good way to implement an online scalable database with these services. (I know that there are attempts to put a relational database on EC2, but they seem to be quite painful.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MySql on Amazon Ec2 &#171; Hone Watson Bookmarks</title>
		<link>http://blog.apokalyptik.com/2006/09/05/mysql-on-amazon-ec2-my-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-7366</link>
		<dc:creator>MySql on Amazon Ec2 &#171; Hone Watson Bookmarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MySQL on Amazon Ec2. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MySQL on Amazon Ec2. [...]</p>
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